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Welcome to Nashville

note: I submitted my blog to NashvilleIsTalking.com a sweet blog run by a news station (actually by Brittney) that just blogs about bloggers in Nashville (Like me!). Which means:
WELCOME MY NASHVILLE FRIENDS!

My own welcome to Nashville about a month ago came right in the midst of the State cutting off TennCare (the state’s health care program) for hundreds of thousands of people. Not a very nice thing.

I’m not a politician or anything, but I guess I basically think that a humane and justice society would take care of it’s sick and dying members. And so as a vocal citizens in a democracy I’ve raised my voice and called for reform that would keep those in need receiving the care that they need.

Now my Nashville family, you might be thinking: “The system is corrupt anyways! I heard about this guy who lived in Alabama who was on TennCare and pocketing tons of money! My friend said she heard of a guy who just used his TennCare to get drugs to get high on. We don’t want people like this taking our money.”
and some of those things might be true.

But Here’s your opportunity: Come out to a Town Hall Meeting and hear the stories of actual TennCare members. Hear how these cuts have affected those who are sick and some who are dying in our midst. Hear their stories.

TUESDAY
6PM to 7:30 PM
August 9, 2005

MADISON BRANCH PUBLIC LIBRARY
610 Gallatin Pike S.
Nashville, TN 37206
862-5868
Get Directions to It…

*Sponsored by the Grassroots Organizing Committee and the Nashville Peace and Justice Center
615-321-9066 http://www.nashvillepeacejustice.org

Good conversation.

So, to be honest with everyone, I’ve been a little frustrated by Anonymous’ comments. Fortunately I had a great IM conversation with somebody of similar political views. It taught me that there really is the possiblity of dialogue between two people of differing views.

The text below is our conversation on IM (edited a little for clarity). It’s not over, but sort of gives some idea of where he was coming from and me having the opportunity to probe a little bit to gain some understanding.
I’ll post my thoughts or reactions later, hopefully in another conversation, but maybe just another blog post. Enjoy.

[Initial comments are addressing cabc29’s buddy icon “Give War a Chance”]
bfine107: why?
cabc29: ha
cabc29: to survive
bfine107: why do you want to survive?
bfine107: and how?
cabc29: why? that ought to be self evident
bfine107: not as a christian I don’t think it is
bfine107: I mean people want to survive for lots of reasons
cabc29: I’m sure they do
bfine107: that’s why I asked
cabc29: well, virture requires that you be alive
cabc29: wouldn’t you say
bfine107: ?
bfine107: elaborate
cabc29: honestly, I’d prefer not to
bfine107: really?
bfine107: okay
cabc29: the message
cabc29: “give war a chance”
cabc29: isn’t really, in my mind, pro war
cabc29: as if war is a good thing
cabc29: it’s in a specific context
cabc29: our context
cabc29: it’s meant to move the framework of debate in a direction
cabc29: it doesn’t provide an ideal
bfine107: I see
cabc29: you want an ideal, but that’s not what I’m trying to get at with “give war a chance”
bfine107: Oh, I’m not going for an ideal
bfine107: just trying to see what makes you tick
bfine107: why you want to survive
bfine107: that’s all
cabc29: I’m a Straussian
cabc29: that ought to give you a clue
bfine107: If only I knew what that meant
bfine107: you’ll have to dumb things down for me a bit
cabc29: one word: google
bfine107: gotcha
bfine107: I’ll give it a shot
bfine107: Sorry, I was just curious
bfine107: I started blogging recently
cabc29: no, it’s fine that you asked
cabc29: oh did you?
bfine107: and I got this anonymous responder
cabc29: that can be so annoying
bfine107: who is just tearing everything I say to shreds
cabc29: don’t let it get to you
cabc29: or at least try not to
bfine107: anyways, I feel the person is intellectually kind of coming from some of the same political points as you
bfine107: and so I was curious what you thought
bfine107: I’m sure he is right on a lot of this stuff.
bfine107: It’d just be great to get him dialoging instead of ripping on what I write
bfine107: (or she, if it’s a she)
cabc29: one time I asked some guy who did basically the same thing to actually engage in a dialog
cabc29: he declined
bfine107: I’m really interested in learning from folks who know a ton about politics
cabc29: it’s much easier to just stop by and tear down
bfine107: yeah
bfine107: well, I’ll try to go with it a little more
bfine107: but I’ll probably take your advice
bfine107: and block him eventually
cabc29: I guess the reason I blocked PK, whoever that was, is because even when I would try to discuss things with him in the comments section
cabc29: he wouldn’t ever be impacted by anything I said
cabc29: it was like talking to a wall
bfine107: yeah,
bfine107: Mindy doesn’t like IM and forums for that reason
bfine107: when we aren’t eye to eye with people we tend to be a little (or a lot) more cruel
cabc29: right
bfine107: we can just rant when we want and leave other things unfinished
cabc29: I don’t even care that much about insults
bfine107: yeah, I hear you
cabc29: but
cabc29: if you can’t actually engage in dialog, and instead just rant and assert and ad hominem
cabc29: what’s the point of allowing that on your blog?
bfine107: yeah that’s true
bfine107: I guess the reason I’m leaving it for now
bfine107: is because others who come and read the post and comments can judge for themselves
cabc29: it seems like the commenter is responding with actual content, but also with a snide tone
bfine107: Maybe a third party can show me my wrong ways politely and also point out where I’m on the right track.

cabc29: you really should read Machiavelli
bfine107: read the prince once
bfine107: for Political Philosophy
cabc29: as did I
cabc29: but I’ve read it again since then, and commentary about it
cabc29: but go on
bfine107: hard reading, and i didn’t have enough time to digest
bfine107: would that be your recommendation?
cabc29: well
bfine107: or another writing by him?
cabc29: yeah the prince is what you should read of course
cabc29: but
cabc29: the reason is just
cabc29: you may be caught up with a desire to use certain means, but those aren’t going to accomplish the ends you want
cabc29: perhaps
cabc29: which could be illustrated by the prince
cabc29: but
cabc29: I digress
bfine107: hmm
bfine107: No it’s a good point
cabc29: like do you want anonymous to stop posting? it’s going to take a, and b, and so on
bfine107: yeah,
bfine107: I feel you
bfine107: like I’m caught up with pacifism
bfine107: but the prince might show
bfine107: that pacifism won’t accomplish world peace the way I think it might
bfine107: that war is necessary to accomplish that end
bfine107: or something else
cabc29: or just a reality check–like hello, the entire world order is predicated upon the threat of violence
bfine107: yeah for sure
bfine107: You ever read The Powers That Be?
cabc29: no
bfine107: by Walter Wink
bfine107: interesting book
bfine107: nothing along the lines of the prince or other political stuff
bfine107: more just talking about power struggles
bfine107: and what Jesus said related to that
bfine107: and some of his thoughts on how we might live in light of the words of Jesus
bfine107: Maybe this is too much for this conversation,
bfine107: but I would love to hear someday
bfine107: how your faith plays into your political system
bfine107: and what your thoughts are on some of the things Jesus says
bfine107: Maybe another time
bfine107: or I’d be thrilled to read anything you’ve written previously on that or other things
cabc29: I honestly don’t think the Bible is all that specific on government
bfine107: agreed
bfine107: I’m not so much talking about government
bfine107: But you personally
bfine107: and thus how you shape your politics
cabc29: well obviously a Christian must rely on the Bible as his guide for living, correct?
bfine107: I tend to think so
cabc29: well then, if a Christian is to think about politics, he might look to the Bible to see what it has to say
bfine107: absolutely
cabc29: and, in my opinion, it says quite little
bfine107: about government
cabc29: correct
bfine107: so that means it’s free game?
bfine107: anything goes?
cabc29: well no
cabc29: it’s just that it’s not so simple as saying, well, jesus said take care of the poor, so let’s use the government!
bfine107: OH, I absolutely agree
bfine107: I think we should take action ourselves
bfine107: apart from the government
bfine107: but shouldn’t our society reflect the value of it’s citizens?
cabc29: http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Beyond_Good_Intentions-ISBN_0891074988.html?isrc=b-search
bfine107: I use bestwebbuys all the time!
bfine107: sorry, random, (I’m looking for it at the library though)
cabc29: btw wheaton prof pj hill is on the back of that book with a reccomendation
bfine107: cool, I’m a fan of PJ
cabc29: whatever the State does, it does with the implicit threat of violence
cabc29: if you don’t pay your taxes, men with guns physically force you to sit in a cage
cabc29: right?
bfine107: yes
cabc29: so how exactly is it moral for the state to take one person’s money, under that threat of violence, and give it to a poor person?
bfine107: hmm
cabc29: it seems to me that virtue ought to be voluntary or it isn’t virtue
cabc29: but then again
bfine107: ok
bfine107: that makes sense
cabc29: there are a host of factors that make “voluntary” actions less than purely volunatary
cabc29: I like to think of it as a scale
cabc29: with absolute coercion at one end
cabc29: and
cabc29: purely voluntary (whatever that means) at the other
cabc29: I don’t think purely voluntary can even be reached
cabc29: though
bfine107: okay
cabc29: I guess what I’m trying to say, is that, like you, I struggle with the morality of various means, such that using the government for things isn’t a very viable solution in my eyes
cabc29: and so
cabc29: when Christians like Jim Wallis invoke the name of Jesus so that they can use the State to “help the poor” I get kind of cynical
cabc29: and start reading Machiavelli instead
cabc29: if that makes sens
cabc29: sense
bfine107: so your thought is, the government’s
bfine107: role is more or less to
bfine107: …
cabc29: I can’t tell you exactly where I stand
bfine107: sorry, I don’t want to put words in your mouth
cabc29: but I find the State to be highly problematic
cabc29: and I’d like to see it’s role greatly reduced
bfine107: basically you think using the state to care out virtue isn’t appropriate
cabc29: kind of
bfine107: The reduction being
bfine107: it’s main role it to protect?
bfine107: like, I think you support having military troops
cabc29: but then when it comes to things like the war on terror….
cabc29: the thing about war and defense is this
cabc29: you and I can’t pay for different levels of national defense
cabc29: it doesn’t really get solved by the market
cabc29: so
cabc29: what to do?
cabc29: if we don’t defend the homeland, we’re all going to die

TO BE CONTINUED…

Dear Anonymous

To anonymous and others who have enlightening things to tell me about,

I would love to IM or email with you about the things that you obviously think I am un-informed about. My understanding of war does not come from a philosphizing political point of view.

Most of my thoughts on issues like this come strictly from what I see Christ said. My hope is that others like yourself would come to see that maybe war isn’t such a hot idea and then YOU can be the genius who comes up with the pacifist foreign policy that would work.

I concur to the blog world that Anonymous will likely be able to rip to shreds any thoughts or arguments I give on any sort of political grounds. I concur that Anonymous is likely far smart then me when it comes to these things, and if you would like to know more of Anonymous’ thoughts please go to Anonymous’ blog.

Now, anonymous, out of curiousity…
Say you were crazy like me and for some reason thought killing people was just a straight up bad idea. Say your right about the Iraq Body Count thing, but you still think the numbers of dead people is too high. What if you were President (or whatever position you would want to choose, except God), would you do to try to carry out the ethics of not going to war? No round about answers or arguing how it just won’t work. Just pretend your crazy and you have these crazy ethics. What would you do?

Maybe that was too big a topic.

So, anonymous, I appreciate your comments and I’ll try not to say things like that again.
It seems the issue of disbanding police maybe is a little to extreme for people to consider at the moment so we’ll just leave that alone for now. We’ll change the focus just a little bit and consider the war in Iraq.

The number of civilian casualties in a war is disturbing to me. I mean back in the day wars were fought with folks lining up in rows in a field and shooting each other or stabing each other, now we bomb villages and cities.

In The Powers that Be, by Walter Wink, (and you should read it if you haven’t), he talks about how from 1700 till recently civilian deaths (meaning we didn’t intentionally kill the person) had been about 50 percent of the deaths in a war. But recently with modern technology it jumped to 74 percent of the deaths in the 1980’s and appears to be close to 90 percent in the 90’s. That’s scary.

If you compare the casualties in Iraq to the soldiers that 90% seems about right.

Does anyone else think we need to sit back and reconsider this war thing a little bit? If you do I’ve got a great place to start: Read The Powers that Be, by Walter Wink (check it out of your local library).
Another place to start would be to check out this link: Addressing the issue of Nuclear weapons (still being built in the USA)

If I said something terribly obvious here I’m sorry.

“Love your enemies.”

London shooting

Okay, time for a serious blog. If anyone has been paying attention to the news then they’ve probably heard about Jean Charles de Menezes and I don’t know about you but it’s a little freak to me.

The basic jist is that Friday London police chased a guy in the subway, he tripped and fell and they shot him five times, dead. Already I was a concerned because it sounded like marshall law, it seemed like they could have apprehended him without shooting him, I mean he tripped and fell, some witnesses said they had pinned him down when they shot him.

Now we find out that he had nothing to do with any of the bombings.
Does this disturb anyone? We are becoming so scared of dying that we are killing ourselves trying to stop those who might kill us.

My friend Karma is an anarchist. She was anti-war like me, but she was anti-policemen and stuff too. I figured it made sense to have people keep the peace, but she felt that when you give people power they often abuse it. She has plenty of examples on her side, police beatings, racial profiling, Jim Crow, Rodney King, riot cops at the FTA and WTO protest, the list goes on.

Now I’m starting to agree with her. I mean what happened to being a community that watched out for one another? What would a city without police look like? Would we all feel more responsible for caring for each other in our community? Would we make it a point to know all our neighbors?
Or would we all carry guns and triple lock our doors and just watch out for “our own”?

I hope everyone is thinking about this. I mean the police chief actually said there might be people shot while looking for suicide bombers. And what about racial profiling on top of that?

Lord what is this world coming to?

Welcome to my blog!

You’ve most likely arrived here after seeing my article on Relevantmagazine.com. I’m quite surprised they posted my article as it’s a little more radical then I think the mainstream they are trying to target, but they did nonetheless.
I’d like to write a bit more for Relevant and other publications if the opportunity arises. I don’t feel like I’m an amazingly gifted writer; it’s not how I write that is intriguing. Rather, I think I’m saying things other Christians aren’t saying; it’s what I’m writing that is capturing attention.
If you like the article please be sure to comment on Relevant’s website on the article, so that they know you want to hear more of that type of writing. Also, feel free to subscribe to my blog, as I’ll post here much more often then you’ll see articles of mine on the Relevant website.
Be sure to tell your friends about the article as well! I’d really appreciate all the support I can get. I’m not really interested in making a name for myself, but I’d like to encourage magazines like Relevant and other pop culture Christian groups to consider seriously the issues of social justice and how are love for God and one another is to be displayed in our lives.

Enjoy!

It’s just better

So after some friends candidly pointed out to me that they weren’t able to subscribe to my blog I decided I should probably see what my site looks like on an internet explorer browser. My site looked horrible! Now I know that means it’s my job to get it all fixed up right and looking pretty for everyone who comes across it, but it also made me realize something:

Firefox is just better.

No offense to you Microsoft fans, but it’s time to branch out. Do your life a favor and download firefox.

Pacifism works.

You’ve probably heard about the murder rampage that happened in Atlanta over the weekend. Probably also thought like most folks that this person was an evil horrible criminal, not a human.

Anyways, thought you would be touched by this account of Brian Nichols:

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/noads/0305/14hostage.html

You can use this name, email and password to login (courtesy of bugmenot.com):
name: David
email: spindler@mail.utexas.edu
password: 1234

Welcome to my new blog!

So in light of recent events, mainly being published, I thought I should start a blog that had a defined purpose, speaking about things that I want to be writing about. Maybe not just speaking, but talking too. The focus being specifically on Christians and how we should be, and probably are not, living. Hope that’s a good way to start.

And to the Relevant Mag folks out there… I know I don’t have many credentials, but I’d sure like to write a book. keep me in your list please…