I had the wonderful opportunity this morning of interviewing Eric Odier-Fink of The Justice Clothing Company. Eric graciously gave me a bit of his time to answer some questions about Justice Clothing, Sweatshops, Unions and Fair Trade.
Show Notes:
00:24 Why did you start The Justice Clothing Company?
- “It really started out of Frustration.”
- “The US is predominately sweatshop in it’s apperal production.”
- 1998- Received Catalogs from Union companies (King Louie clothing, Nemisis and Windjammers)
- “Is there Anywhere in the United States for me to buy your gear?”
- “These where companies that where absolutely clean.”
The idea for the Justice Clothing Company was born around 1996 when we met and, among other things, began shopping together. (from the website)
03:15 Working with Union Companies
- “We only work with Union Companies”
- Tried to work with Non-Union (ended well before they began selling their gear).
- Ben and Jerry’s as a Non-Union example
- Non-Union companies weren’t willing to meet their conditions
06:30 Talking about American Apparel
- Discussed working with American-Apparel (It didn’t work out, and it was clearly for the best)
- American-Apperal’s Ugly Union busting Article
- AA’s Sexist ads and Sexual Harrasment
- American Apparel makes clothes, Justice Clothing sells clothes (that union companies make).
11:00 The importance of Unions
- “Unions are the only thing responsible for prosperity in the United States.”
- “Unions bring together workers who, individually, don’t really have any power.”
- “The only power a worker has, is to stop the work that they do.”
- Eric tells the story of his grandfather being almost “worked to death.”
- Why Unions improve companies and the quality of products.
14:45 Justice Clothing becoming a Cooperative
- No longer “Employer, employees.”
- Expanding to others outside the business
- A few “not really for the radio” details about the Co-op.
18:15 Dealing with your overwhelming closet full of sweatshop clothing
- Don’t be overwhelmed
- Find places (like Justice Clothing) where you can shop Sweatshop-Free, and Buy a few things.
- Enjoy it and buy some more.
22:45 What’s your take on Thrift Stores
- Usually fronts for organizations that feed and cloth people
- It’s Recycling!
- It’s not contributing to the sweatshop industry
- The Balance is that people need to work and somethings will need to be bought new, That’s where Justice Clothing comes in.
26:00 Why pay more Money for fair trade clothing?
- Sustainable economies
- Why Not to Contribute to Walmart (articles 1, 2)
29:45 An appeal to people of Faith
- “Buying sweatshop stuff is against my religion”
- “You know your buying stuff that is moral”
* Want to Read some more about this? Eric Suggests:
one I will point out is a magazine-size booklet published by the Progressive Jewish Alliance called “No Schvitz”– it’s a great primer on the history and current situation with sweatshops, with a focus on Jewish involvement (on all sides).